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October 12, 2022

Today I’ll continue my weekly “deep dive” into the Black Sox scandal with a look at the 1919 Cincinnati Reds, a strong team completely overshadowed by the events of the scandal. This essay, along with all the others I’m posting in this series, is a slightly edited version of the one that originally appeared in my 2019 book, Reflections on the 1919 Black Sox: Time To Take Another Look, available on Amazon. 

In the featured photo above, we see the 1919 Reds team photo. A few years ago, I did the player IDs for this photo. See how many players you can pick out before looking at the complete player identifications below.

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1919 Cincinnati Reds: Talk About Being Overshadowed!

“If they threw some of the games they must be consummate actors, and their place is on the stage, for nothing gave us the impression they weren’t doing their best.” -Reds’ manager Pat Moran [1]

Those of you following along with my posts about the 1919 World Series know where I stand. As I’ve said many times, I don’t know what really happened, but my hunch is that conventional wisdom doesn’t tell us the whole story.

Were the Black Sox guilty of cavorting with gamblers, agreeing to a “fix,” and accepting money? Yes, for sure. Did they get what they deserved? Most definitely. Did they actually throw World Series games? Well, of that I’m still not so sure.

The Reds Were Pretty Darn Good

Managers Kid Gleason and Pat Moran from the 1919 World Series

I’ve recently been thinking about the team that actually won the Series: the Cincinnati Reds. “Upon further review,” I’ve come to the conclusion that the Reds were a pretty darn good team. Read on and see if you agree with me…

There’s no question the White Sox were a great team with stars like Shoeless Joe Jackson, Buck Weaver, Hap Felsch, Chick Gandil, Eddie Cicotte, Lefty Williams, Eddie Collins, and Red Faber. But guess what? The Reds had their share of stars too; and, overshadowed by the Black Sox scandal, they were a team that gets very little notoriety.

The Reds were led by their great Hall of Fame centerfielder, Edd Roush, and their roster included at least two other stars: Jack Daubert and Heine Groh. They were solid up and down their lineup, which included Ivey Wingo, Morrie Rath, Larry Kopf, and Greasy Neale.

With White Sox star Red Faber out for the series, the Reds actually had deeper pitching with starters Dutch Ruether, Hod Eller, Slim Sallee, Jimmy Ring, and Ray Fisher, plus relievers Dolf Luque and Rube Bressler. In a nine-game series, pitching depth was key. During the regular season, they had a significant advantage over the White Sox in team ERA: 2.23 to 3.04, plus they had 23 shutouts to the White Sox’ 11.

Pat Moran

While the White Sox had a higher team batting average (.287 to .263), the Reds had a slightly better team fielding percentage (9.74 to 9.67), with 24 fewer errors during the regular season. They were managed by Pat Moran in his first season at the Reds’ helm since taking over for the ailing Christy Mathewson. Moran had previously guided the Phillies (1915-1918), going 323-257, and leading them to the 1915 National League pennant.

On February 1, the Reds obtained first baseman Jake Daubert from the Brooklyn Robins, releasing the notorious Hal Chase and thereby solidifying their infield. In March, they added pitching depth as they signed Ray Fisher from the Yankees and Slim Sallee from the Giants off waivers.

In 1919, the Reds were coming off a solid year (68-60) in the shortened 1918 season. They started 1919 with nine wins in the first ten games. After an 11-15 slump, they went 24-7 over their next 31 games. By late August they began to pull away from the league with an 81-34 record and a nine-game lead. They finished the season with a then franchise-best record of 96-44 and cruised to their first pennant since 1882 when the franchise was in the American Association.

Reds star HOFer Edd Rousch

Star center fielder Edd Roush posted a league-leading .321 average, a team-high 71 RBIs, plus 20 stolen bases. Third baseman Heinie Groh hit .310 with a team-high five home runs, 63 RBI, and 21 stolen bases, while newly acquired Jake Daubert hit .276 with two home runs and 44 RBI. Outfielder Greasy Neale led the team with 28 stolen bases while batting .242 with a home run and 54 RBI.

Hod Eller anchored the pitching staff, posting a 19-9 record with a 2.39 ERA over 248 innings. Dutch Ruether led the National League with a .760 winning percentage (19-6), and a team-best 1.82 ERA. Slim Sallee led the Reds in victories with a 21-7 record, a 2.06 ERA, and a team-high 22 complete games. Ray Fisher had a solid 14-5 record with a 2.17 ERA in 26 games. There’s no doubt the Reds’ pitching staff was solid.

How the Reds Viewed the Series

It’s interesting to read the reflections of the Reds’ players on the 1919 World Series. Without exception, they all thought they had won fair and square. Some continued to believe that even after details of the scandal broke.[2]

Jake Daubert

Jake Daubert: “I was there, I saw them. We had the jump on the Sox in every game.”

Larry Kopf: We didn’t surmise a damn thing. I couldn’t figure it out.”

Ivy Wingo: “Cicotte worked hard to make us easy outs.”

Hod Eller: “The White Sox were playing for keeps.”

Greasy Neale: “There may have been some queer plays in Game One. But all the other games were honestly contested.”

Edd Roush: “I can’t yet see how they could play the way they did and throw the games. It’s a mystery to me.”

Heine Groh and his famous bottle bat

Heine Groh: “They seemed to be doing their level best to win. We attributed the stories to the White Sox not trying to ‘sour grapes.’ I didn’t see anything that looked suspicious. But I think we’d have beaten them either way.”

Reds’ owner Garry Hermann: “We believe firmly that we would have beaten them had every man of Comiskey’s team played the string out and on the level.” [3]

Overall this was a very solid Reds team. Were they as good as their 1970s descendants, the Big Red Machine? No, not by a long shot. But they were certainly no fluke; and, by the time the World Series rolled around, could very well have been the better team. Plus the White Sox were a faction-ridden team carrying extreme mental baggage, while the Reds were a close-knit group who, as the underdogs, played loose with nothing to lose.

The history of the World Series is replete with upsets. So the fact that the heavily favored White Sox lost the series is not a definitive or conclusive argument in itself that the series was “fixed.” 

1919 Cincinnati Reds Player Identifications

Top: Sherry Magee, Edd Roush, Morrie Rath, Hod Eller, Slim Sallee, Ed Garner, Ray Fisher. Middle: Jake Daubert, Charlie See, Dutch Ruether, Pat Moran, Bill Rariden, Nick Allen, Ivey Wingo, Greasy Neale. Front: Jimmy Smith, Dolf Luque, Pat Duncan, Larry Kopf, Ray Mitchell, Hank Schreiber.

Gary Livacari

[1] The New York Times, October 1, 1920

[2] All player quotes from Burying the Black Sox, pp. 22-24

[3] Ibid

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